Comments on: Peripheral Device Connections, Explained: Thunderbolt or Not, It’s All about USB-C https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/ And THAT's Good for YOU! Fri, 03 May 2024 19:02:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dong Ngo https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-63370 Fri, 05 Jan 2024 00:34:39 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-63370 In reply to P. Roebuck.

The color-coding is not always adhered to, Paul. For USB-C, on the host device, you’ll can generally expect it to be USB 3.0 (USB 3.2 Gen 1), faster speeds will come with a number near the port itself, such as 10Gbps or 20 Gbps, etc. Also on a host, all USB-C ports can deliver power and you’ll also see a power icon near the port for the one that can be used for powering the host itself — unless it’s the device’s only power port.

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By: P. Roebuck https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-63369 Fri, 05 Jan 2024 00:17:30 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-63369 In reply to Dong Ngo.

According to wikihow, most USB cable manufacturers use a color-coding system to distinguish which USB standard the cable is using. The color of the plastic piece inside the metal plug of a USB-A connector provides the intended cable data speed and power output.

* White: USB 1.0 (Data speed up to 12 Mbps, power output: 5V, 0.5A, 2.5W).
* Black: USB 2.0 (Data speed up to 480 Mbps, power output: 5V, 0.5A, 2.5W).
* Blue: USB 3.0 (Data speed up to 5 Gbps, power output: 5V, 0.5-0.9A 4.5W).
* Teal: USB 3.1 (Data speed up to 10 Gbps, power output: 5-48V, 0.5-5A, up to 240W).
* Red: USB 3.2 (Data speed up to 20 Gbps, power output: 5-48V, 0.5-5A, up to 240W).
* Yellow: High Power USB 2.0 and 3.0 (fast charging).
* Orange: Charge-only USB 3.0

Will there be something comparable for the USB-C connectors?

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By: ChuckM https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-63346 Thu, 04 Jan 2024 01:01:32 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-63346 In reply to P. Roebuck.

Second this.
But then we get into the whole “fastcharge” thing which means different things to different devices. The cable matters here, and all UCB C’s look the same.
In my case, I have LG vXX phones which use the Qualcomm chip, which supports QC 1 to now 5.0, IIRC. My V60 supports QC 4 which means under the right conditions it’ll support up to around 2.6A charging rate, nearly double what I can expect from the V30 and its QC 3.0.
Fortunately I have the double-ended USB C cable and wall wart that came with the V60 and I can use an app like AccuBattery to verify its charge rate. But that cable looks like all the other USB C cables clogging up the bin most of which won’t provide a QC 4.0 charge rate. Anker cables come closest but you need to check to see what’s meant by “fastcharge” in the marketing.

Then there’s a fastboot cable in there somewhere that’s also not labeled…

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By: Dong Ngo https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-63344 Wed, 03 Jan 2024 19:37:20 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-63344 In reply to P. Roebuck.

You can use any and the charging and USB data functions will work. Other than that, Thunderbolt cable comes with a TB icon on each end.

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By: P. Roebuck https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-63340 Wed, 03 Jan 2024 06:28:02 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-63340 Well, I guess it’s nice that they standardize on connector type. But this solution screams for some means of communicating maximum connection standard rates, be that writing on the wires/connectors (a la CAT number) and/or paired with a standard color marking on both as well.

When all ports uses the same connector, no one will know what one to use given a box of cables…

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By: Dong Ngo https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-62087 Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:16:58 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-62087 In reply to George R Madden.

If the cable doesn’t charge consistently, it’s generally bad cable, George. There are a lot of bad USB cables out there since, as mentioned, the standard is less stringent. A good USB-C cable should work with anything USB-C-related. One thing to note is that when a cable is plugged in, don’t make other end wet, that will render the cable bad if not useless.

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By: George R Madden https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-62086 Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:32:35 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-62086 First of all, I read you constantly and apppreciate the way you make the information easier to understand. Do you have anything (or did i miss it) on the different capabilities of the USB-C cables themselves. I run into issues where a cable doesn’t work with one device (or power supply) while it may work on another. Am i having spradic issues with a bad cable or two or is there actually a difference in what I use to charge devices? Thank you…

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By: Dong Ngo https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-62060 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:05:15 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-62060 ]]> In reply to Dennis.

👍

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By: Dennis https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-62058 Fri, 15 Sep 2023 11:19:21 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-62058 This is such an informative and timely post! The world of peripheral connection standards can indeed be a confusing maze, but your breakdown of USB-C and Thunderbolt, as well as the evolution of USB standards, is a welcome guide for anyone trying to make sense of it all.

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By: Dong Ngo https://dongknows.com/usb-vs-thunderbolt-and-the-usb-c-port-type/#comment-54741 Fri, 19 Aug 2022 15:19:25 +0000 https://dongknows.com/?p=10456#comment-54741 In reply to Peter.

That’s correct, Peter. USB 3.2 gen 2×2 came out much later than TB3.

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